We are making a Beltline recommendation: connecting Victoria Park and Inglewood/Ramsay

  • Administration has evaluated several alignment options that would connect the Green Line in the Beltline to Victoria Park and Inglewood/Ramsay.
  • No single option serves all stakeholders and meets all program objectives without trade-offs, but Administration believes one option presents the best balance against all evaluation criteria.
  • Option 4: Transition to 10 Avenue S.E. will be recommended to the Standing Policy Committee on Transportation and Transit and, subsequently, to City Council.
  • Transition to 10 Avenue S.E. limits the impact to the community of Ramsay and addresses concerns regarding traffic access and circulation in Victoria Park. The recommended option also supports the long-term vision for the future Rivers District Master Plan.
  • The recommended alignment requires land acquisition and will impact several properties. Once the alignment is approved, Administration will advance design and will meet with land and property owners. Land acquisition is a risk for any project. If The City cannot acquire the required land, Administration will re-evaluate the remaining alignment options and determine the best course of action.
  • City Council is ultimately responsible for approving the alignment.

History

Since early 2016, Administration has been evaluating how best to connect the Beltline communities to the future Inglewood/Ramsay station. In December, 2016, City Council approved 12 Avenue S as the preferred corridor for the Green Line. Administration then turned their attention to the short but complex stretch in Victoria Park that would complete the connection of the north and southeast segments of the Green Line.

The stretch between MacLeod Trail S.E. and the Inglewood/Ramsay station constrained the design of the Green Line due to several factors:

  • Victoria Park redevelopment -Canada Municipal Land Corporation (CMLC) is currently developing its Rivers District Masterplan, a new vision for the area that includes the Stampede grounds, the Saddledome, and a future culture and entertainment district. The City of Calgary is working with CMLC to support the area transportation network once the Rivers District Masterplan is built out to best serve Calgarians, whether you travel by foot, bike, transit or car.
  • Victoria Park Transit Centre – The Victoria Park Transit Centre (VPTC) sits just west of the Elbow River, between CP Railway and 12 Avenues S. It is an active transit centre, open 24/7, with one third of the city’s daily bus fleet operating out of the facility. The centre can be relocated in the future but no commitments have been made in terms of funding or timelines. The estimated cost of a replacement facility, not including remediation of the lands in Victoria Park, is approximately $300 million. The City does not currently have the funds to relocate the centre, so Administration has been exploring Green Line alignment options that would not require immediate relocation of the Transit Centre.

It is Administration’s responsibility to explore all technically possible alignment options to understand potential issues and opportunities, and to provide City Council with the information and context they need to make an alignment decision.

Past Engagement

North of the Victoria Park Transit Centre - Map

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Our thoughts on Option 1

OpportunitiesIssues
  • Ties directly into the previously approved Green Line alignment at the Elbow River
  • Slower LRT travel time due to turns around Victoria Park Transit Centre
  • Least amount of private property impacts (though there are still some)
  • Increased operational costs and wear-and-tear on equipment due to tight LRT turns around Victoria Park Transit Centre
  • Minimal impacts on community of Ramsay
  • Impacts site layout, bus operations, and access to maintenance and storage bays at the Victoria Park Transit Centre
  • Station location supports culture and entertainment district
  • Stakeholder concerns about portal location
  • Impact to local access and circulation on 12 Avenue S

Your thoughts on Option 1

The chart above shows what the Green Line team understands are the opportunities and issues associated with this alignment.

Use this digital sounding board to provide feedback on the listed issues and opportunities, or add one that has not been noted.

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Much better solution for Ramsay. Doesn't divide community. BUT traffic will be horrendous at 12th Ave and 6th Street station - not good”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Curious why the new options do not have to go through the same T & T committee process the other options did. ”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Connection to Vic Park from Ramsay will be impacted. 8th Street scheduled to close. 7th street scheduled to close. ”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Stampede ground traffic outflow after games at saddledome/plan b will be severely impacted. ”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Access to the proposed station is limited/constrained to/from the north.”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Option 1: disruptive to the community of Ramsay. Impacts the bridge. ”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“The track over 12th means that Ramsay has to deal with a potential train every time we want to head to the beltline.”

10 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Too much impact on access/connection to the community between Ramsay and downtown/East Victoria village. Not the best option.”

10 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Does not impact Ramsay which provides an opportunity to strengthen the community with more transit options. ”

9 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“For tunnel, ideal portal exit exists on NE side of Ramsay out of existing near vertical slope, eliminate block long portal in Vic Park.”

9 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Stay away from the river ... will forever destroy any other options for river side development in this area.”

9 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Looks good! Liking this option so far!”

MacDonald Avenue - Map

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  3. All map feedback collected at in-person events has also been added to this map.

Our thoughts on Option 2

OpportunitiesIssues
  • Improved LRT operations and less wear and tear on LRT vehicles
  • Property impacts to individual homes
  • Faster overall LRT travel times
  • Community concern about division of neighbourhood
  • Would reduce impact to bus operations at Victoria Park Transit Centre as the main entrance/exit is not shared with LRT
  • Changes to access and circulation in the Ramsay community
  • Allows flexibility in adapting to future needs as Transit Centre moves and area develops
  • Impacts to local access and circulation on 12 Avenue S.E.
  • Station location supports culture and entertainment district
  • Stakeholder concern about portal location

Your thoughts on Option 2

The chart above shows what the Green Line team understands are the opportunities and issues associated with this alignment.

Use this digital sounding board to provide feedback on the listed issues and opportunities, or add one that has not been noted.

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“The worst plan ever - traffic, houses isolated, many crossings, higher initial cost, noisy near homes, creates a physical valley to do this”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“The Stampede connection to Ramsay - sharing a road is not going to work. Consider Stampede traffic that uses this road - ie trucks. ”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Option 2 is the least desirable. Why sacrifice one of Calgary's few historic character neighbourhoods, if other options are available?”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Safety impacts as my child will have to cross these lines during peak times just to get to school. ”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Significant cost to procure land and demolish homes along ROW.”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Severs a historic community”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“NO! This obstructs our ability to connect downtown/Beltline/Inglewood! It divides our neighbourhood (Ramsay) & destroys heritage street.”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Option 2: disruptive to the community of Ramsay. ”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Why is Ramsay being sacrificed for a station Beltline when the route along 10th has the least impact? ”

10 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Not worth the destruction just for this train line. Spend the extra $. Ramsay doesn't deserve it. I'm sure the rest of Calgary will agree”

10 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Very Negative. Impacts to access&egress, visual and sound pollution and resident displacement are unacceptable.”

9 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Any 12 ave alignment options will jam up traffic so bad that Ramsay will never be used for a cut-through commuter route again! Bravo!”

Staged around the Victoria Park Transit Centre - Map

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  1. Left click your mouse on the map to drag it around. You can move it and zoom in and out using the + and - buttons on the map. Use it just like a Google Map.
  2. Click on the blue check marks to see feedback and comments.
  3. All map feedback collected at in-person events has also been added to this map.

Our thoughts on Option 3

OpportunitiesIssues
  • Minimizes impacts on community of Ramsay in the short and long term
  • Wouldnot include 4 Street S.E. station in the area until after the Transit Centre is moved
  • In the long term, allows flexibility in adapting to future needs as Transit Centre moves and area develops
  • Slower LRT travel times due to turns around Victoria Park Transit Centre in the short term
  • Improved LRT operations in the long term after the Transit Centre is relocated
  • Impacts to Transit Centre site layout, bus operations, access to maintenance and storage bays, and equipment wear-and-tear in the short term
  • Station supports culture and entertainment district in the long term
  • Higher costs due to modifying and rebuilding infrastructure in the future
  • Tied directly into the previously approved Green Line alignment at Elbow River
  • Reduces the amount of land available for redevelopment on the Transit Centre site in the long term
  • Stakeholder concerns about portal location in short and long term
  • Impact to local access and circulation on 12 Avenue S in short and long term

Your thoughts on Option 3

The chart above shows what the Green Line team understands are the opportunities and issues associated with this alignment.

Use this digital sounding board to provide feedback on the listed issues and opportunities, or add one that has not been noted.

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Ramsay currently has all roads impeded by CP or C-Train except the 12th Ave (west of Ramsay) and 12th Street (east of Ramsay) Improve this!”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“We need access/egress points that are not impeded by trains. Minutes matter when waiting on a fire truck or ambulance.”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Happy that it doesn't go right through Ramsay but very concerned about traffic issues in the areas around bus barn and 6th Street/12th Ave”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Does provide more opportunity to develop greenspace where Vic Park Transit barns now stand.”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“still impedes traffic flow along 12th ave”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Option 3: Provides good access to Stampede Park w/o sectioning-off Ramsay. Keep the new line parallel w/existing tracks where possible. ”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Is there an option that allows Ramsay access to the Beltline without dealing with a Train Crossing. Trains currently trap us. ”

9 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Makes access for East Village residents more difficult”

9 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“This complicates future developments once bus barns move. Also conflicts with future arena development.”

9 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Deal with/move the bus barns now if choosing this option.”

9 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“If tunnel built, ideal portal exit exists on NE side of Ramsay from near vertical slope that would eliminate block long portal in Vic Park”

9 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Although reportedly discarded, adequate funding of this section would fund tunnel that meets needs of all stakeholders in Vic Park/Ramsay”

Transition to 10 Ave S.E. - Map

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How did we get here?

Our challenge was to find the best alignment through the Beltline, connecting across the Elbow River to the future Inglewood/Ramsay station.

The Green Line team looked at a number of options for moving through the Beltline. After initial analysis and additional direction from City Council, four potential options, were identified for detailed evaluation and stakeholder engagement.

As of December, 2016, the team will narrow the focus of their evaluation to the two options on 12 Avenue S, as approved by City Council.

Our thoughts on Option 4

OpportunitiesIssues
  • Minimizes impacts to existing traffic network
  • Impact on additional properties and businesses in the Victoria Park area
  • Faster travel times for LRT
  • Tunnel under private properties may impact future development potential
  • Minimal impacts to Victoria Park Transit Centre
  • Will require land currently under litigation
  • Minimizes impacts to existing residential communities
  • More complex construction and tunneling methods under historic properties and the existing Red Line tunnel
  • Ties directly into the previously approved Green Line Alignment at Elbow River
  • Property impacts to historic buildings in Victoria Park
  • Station not centrally placed in culture and entertainment district

Your thoughts on Option 4

The chart above shows what the Green Line team understands are the opportunities and issues associated with this alignment.

Use this digital sounding board to provide feedback on the listed issues and opportunities, or add one that has not been noted.

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Great that the LRT doesn't go along the riverfront and destroy the Elbow River riverwalk areas.”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Opportunity for a future source of funding when selling land and relocating bus barns as the riverfront property is not surrounded by trains”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Love that this option utilizes the area that is already being used for train traffic - it would be bad to be surrounded by trains”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Awesome solution to Ramsay concerns about access/egress, maintaining historic charm and keeping the community together.”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“This options allows for better redevelopment in Vic Park area and provided a connection point to the east village. this is a winning option”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“It's a good idea to place the station in the culture/entertainment district, yes. But why not extend the district out to the station?”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“This really seems like the best option for honouring the character and community of existing historic streetscapes in Ramsay & Victoria Park”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“still seems strange to go south, then north, then south again. Can we save some $$$ by moving beltline station?”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Preferred option for our family and well regarding amongst out Ramsay neighbors as well.”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Laurie (Ramsay resident): Best of the bunch. Uses existing road/train corridors. Easy access to entertainment/other districts.”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“Option 4 is preferred; it does not section-off a piece of Ramsay and has good access to Stampede Park and East Village. ”

11 May, 2017

Anonymous says:

“From Ramsay, does not require crossing the track to get to the Beltline. Better Ramsay/Beltline Access. ”

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