Preliminary Concept: Short-term Recommendations

Below you will see the changes recommended to address concerns in the short-term (within five years), prior to the implementation of a long-term design. Please share what benefits and challenges you see and any changes that you would suggest related to the short-term recommendations.

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Share your thoughts on the benefits, challenges, or suggested changes related to the Short-term Recommendations.

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Benefits

What benefits do you see?

13 December, 2016

says:

“the light at 43 and 16th is only useful if it acts light the like on 17th and 12th SW that only changes if a pedestrian pushes the button”

13 December, 2016

says:

“this reduces traffic flow considerably. bike lanes are only part that is fine. the light at 43rd will be of limited benefit most of the time”

13 December, 2016

says:

“I don't see benefits to this plan. it will cost money, unnecessarily, and will reduce traffic flow, cause congestion & doesn't fix anythiny”

12 December, 2016

none says:

“I like the cycletracks on Bowness, but they don't connect to anything. Are you planning more further west?”

12 December, 2016

none says:

“Why didn't the advisory committee see this concept?”

12 December, 2016

none says:

“on-street cycletracks on bowness would be great, but none of the concepts show how (or even "if") these connect to the River pathways.”

10 December, 2016

CaptainMontgomery says:

“I like the addition of proposed 'multi-use' pathways on both sides of Bowness Road to Shag. Makes access to path system better.”

9 December, 2016

Bill Rennie says:

“I was on the advisory committee and this is the first time I have seen this. I find this very disrespectful.”

9 December, 2016

RP says:

“If there were a will, this could be completed by the 30 of June 2017. Lives saved.”

9 December, 2016

Tricky Ricky says:

“Increased safety. How much is a life worth? The main design and implementation will take many years. We need some safety enhancements now”

9 December, 2016

Alex says:

“No benefits in the short turn plan. Ramps taken out and replaced by new ones. Extra lights will add to congestion. Wait for long term plan.”

8 December, 2016

Dee2 says:

“Great to have better walkway between Montgomery and Parkdale.”

8 December, 2016

Karl P says:

“Light at 43 St and 16 Ave, if it includes left turn signal, could help me get from EB 16th Ave north into Montgomery during afternoon rush”

8 December, 2016

David Crowe says:

“This looks like a relatively low cost improvement that increases safety and recovers land being used by overbuilt intersections.”

7 December, 2016

Jason S says:

“Overall good. Light at 16 & 43 St - Safer for peds and cyclists. Bowness Rd East entrance - light, bike pathway, and narrowing good.”

7 December, 2016

DB says:

“Lengthening the merge from SB Shaganappi onto EB 16 Avenue is good (but high impact), but why not just use Bowness Road and a new ramp?”

6 December, 2016

fred says:

“seems very expensive for limited benefit - better to wait till long-term upgrades”

6 December, 2016

fred says:

“only good part of this plan is the light on 16th and 43, a safe crossing here eliminates the need for path/bikelane on bowness rd under 16th”

6 December, 2016

fred says:

“i don't understand the problems this is trying to solve. I think do nothing is a better use of funds at this point.”

6 December, 2016

Dandrew says:

“This is the best scenario. Traffic lights on this hill would only create more problems in winter driving conditions. ”

4 December, 2016

says:

“None, west of time and money. Do it right or don't bother. ”

4 December, 2016

Wyatt says:

“Spend the money you would spend on this on permanent infrastructure.”

3 December, 2016

Dawn says:

“None. Adding new lights to Bowness and 16th Avenue is of little to no benefit.”

3 December, 2016

hksparky says:

“Do not add the new traffic lights on Bowness Road and 16th Ave. Need to keep traffic flowing not stop traffic and create long backups”

2 December, 2016

John says:

“Path redline N side of& X-ing B Rd/P Blvd poor safety/not translate to preferential support walk and bike, applies to other versions too.”

2 December, 2016

John says:

“Path redline N side of& X-ing B Rd/P Blvd poor safety/not translate to preferential support walk and bike, applies to other versions too.”

1 December, 2016

Shanna says:

“I see no benefit at all to the short term proposal as it is the dual lane is not enough for the traffic flowing from Bowness/ 16th”

29 November, 2016

Sterling says:

“None. Not a good value proposition and does not meet study objectives.”

25 November, 2016

Alex says:

“None. Expensive new ramps and intersections added without any real benefit to traffic movement or pedestrian safety.”

Challenges

What challenges do you see?

13 December, 2016

says:

“this plan is horrible and short sighted with extremely limited gains and a lot of wasted time and money, it is disruptive to traffic & homes”

13 December, 2016

says:

“the traffic lights are atrocious! unless the one at 42 is ONLY set off by pedestrians this is a disastrous plan causing congestion and noise”

12 December, 2016

anonymous says:

“Three blocks of cycletracks that don't connect to anything seemed "doomed to fail". Need connections west to work properly.”

12 December, 2016

anonymous says:

“This looks like a gigantic waste of money, only really taking out two turn options for cars. Why not just build the "real thing" now?”

10 December, 2016

JH says:

“I don't mind the tight cloverleafs with yields on to 16th - silly to remove & insert lights”

10 December, 2016

says:

“Removing L turn access to S-bd Shag Tr will result in W-bd 16 Av traffic doing a R turn on to 43rd St going E to Pt McK, Pkdale etc ”

10 December, 2016

CaptainMontgomery says:

“This plan disrupts the free-flow of traffic afforded by the current design and doesn't give strong benefits to balance the disruption.”

10 December, 2016

CaptainMontgomery says:

“Bowness Rd to EB 16th is difficult now with the removal of the EB ramp. Forcing travelers through 1 to 2 sets of lights (route depending).”

10 December, 2016

CaptainMontgomery says:

“Why remove access to SB Shag? This will divert traffic looking to get from 16th to Memorial through Bowness Road and through more signals.”

10 December, 2016

CaptainMontgomery says:

“Addition of new signals on 16th avenue (at ramp) and on Bowness Road seems excessive and will lead to traffic congestion.”

10 December, 2016

CaptainMontgomery says:

“140 characters is not enough to provide valuable feedback. What a joke.”

9 December, 2016

Alex says:

“Short term plans will eventually be replaced so there would be multiple construction delays and costs. Benefits are limited.”

8 December, 2016

says:

“Who came up with the 140 character limitation? Sure, limit the #, but give me a break, this deserves more than a tweet length!”

8 December, 2016

Dee2 says:

“May take longer driving east on Bowness Road from Montgomery to access 16th Ave. ”

8 December, 2016

says:

“the light on 16th would slow things unnecessarily for most of the day. Could it function only at rush hour, and otherwise flash?”

7 December, 2016

Jason S says:

“Increased traffic on 43rd St. Doesn't solve 16th Ave East to Shaganappi North merge problem. ”

5 December, 2016

says:

“No cycling facility E or W of new Bowness cycling facility. Lower speed limit address safety issue w/out stoplights. Merge lanes too short”

3 December, 2016

Dawn says:

“Increased travel time on 16th Avenue. ”

3 December, 2016

Jason says:

“Increased travel time on Bowness due to light at 16 Ave ramp will occur. Area will already see higher traffic due to University District.”

1 December, 2016

Andy says:

“Removal of ramp from EB Bowness onto EB 16th is completely unnecessary! Traffic lights will cause huge backups!”

30 November, 2016

says:

“Feels like a waste of money, to just throw away the changes in the medium term.”

29 November, 2016

says:

“Costly ramps will provide minimal traffic benefit. Negligible walk/bike improvements, especially from north. No new redevelopment potential.”

25 November, 2016

Alex says:

“Intersection on 16 ave will slow down traffic. Cost.”

Changes

What changes do you suggest?

13 December, 2016

says:

“change it by getting rid of this plan”

13 December, 2016

says:

“bike lanes are the only viable part of this plan. this is super disruptive to the people who live in the study area (who weren't consulted)”

10 December, 2016

CaptainMontgomery says:

“Scrap this short-term idea. It's broken for car travelers on Bowness & 16th. Existing has very good traffic flow for those on Bowness & 16th”

10 December, 2016

CaptainMontgomery says:

“It would be nice to modify the entrance to 'Montgomery' on Bowness Road to better integrate with the adjacent infrastructure.”

10 December, 2016

CaptainMontgomery says:

“There is already a ped-cross at 16th and 43rd, a traffic light is unnecessary. ”

9 December, 2016

says:

“Just put a permanent solution in.”

9 December, 2016

Alex says:

“Better N-S bike connections from river pathway”

8 December, 2016

Dee2 says:

“ Not sure if design includes a footpath on the north side of Bowness Road along the first block east of Shaganappi. I hope it does.”

8 December, 2016

Sharon M says:

“Overly ambitious city planners created this mess by trying to solve a problem that never materialized. Let's not repeat it. Leave as is.”

8 December, 2016

Sharon M says:

“Lose the bike lanes. The safety goal here should be to keep bikes off of major roadways and on the river pathway system.”

7 December, 2016

says:

“Speed bumps along 43 St. Roundabout at 43 St & Bowness Rd. Fix blind intersection of MacKay & 19 Ave. Pedestrian overpass - 16th & 43rd St.”

7 December, 2016

DB says:

“Use SB Shaganappi and a new connection from WB Bowness Road to EB 16 Avenue instead of the proposed ramp through the middle of the site.”

5 December, 2016

Marilyn says:

“Round about at 43 and Bowness Road. Lengthening the ramp from 16 west bound to make turn north bound Shaganappi. ”

5 December, 2016

says:

“Lower 16Ave speed limit to 50km/h. Actual cycling facilities instead of just MUPs. Upgrade curb cuts Bowness-Shaganappi intersection”

3 December, 2016

Jason says:

“Add pedestrian overpass over 16 Ave at 43 St. Short term benefit to address bike and foot traffic safety with long term benefit too. ”

3 December, 2016

Jason says:

“Extend study to include dedicated left turn lane on to 37 St to improve traffic flow on Bowness Rd after Shaganappi ties in. ”

1 December, 2016

Brent says:

“Do nothing is still the best option, with the exception of adding a pathway through the Bowness Rd 16 ave intersection.”

30 November, 2016

says:

“Do not add another stop along 16th.”

30 November, 2016

says:

“If traffic from 16Ave going east can get to Bowness Rd, then Shag Tr north, I don't see why traffic from Bowness Rd can't do same to16Ave E”

30 November, 2016

says:

“Be real nice to have a bicycle path system coming down MacKay Road, then join the bike path on Bowness Road to the river. ”

29 November, 2016

Sterling says:

“Do not support multi-use path on Bowness. Need cycle tracks + sidewalks. Should make walk/bike improvements and wait for long term option.”

25 November, 2016

Alex says:

“Add a pedestrian overpass instead. Then wait to implement a long term solution”